Should there be censorship in art? Yes. What!!! Let me explain. I think that there should be no censorship in art at all, except when it comes to illegal acts. If your «art» (conceptual art) is beating up an unfortunate in the street to take his money to buy the wine for your gallery’s vernissage, you have not created «art», you have committed aggravated strong-arm robbery and you should go to jail. If you abuse of animals or any other living thing to «create» art, then you have not the right to do so. It should be censored and you should be punished. But anything else, no matter how tasteless it might be, as long as it is legal, should not be censored.
What do you think?
Is showing a nipple (in a painting or in art photography) on Instagram something wrong? Is it immoral? Or if you post your art (nudes) on YouTube, are you offending the general audience? Classical paintings can be shown as they are, but modern ones that I paint, or you? If we post them on social media they get censored! Incredible!
What do you think?
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JaZzArt en València 
Por supuesto que no debería haber censura en el arte pero siempre existió. Por ejemplo,»El Juicio Final de Miguel Ángel», fue mandado a retocar por la Iglesia o «La mujer desnuda» de Francisco de Goya, en principio, fue prohibida al público. Saludos Francisco.
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Asi es, siempre ha existido, y hubo un tiempo cuando pensamos que eso se había quedado atrás con las quemas de brujas etcétera, pero ahora ha regresado especialmente en las redes sociales. Gracias mil Manuel y un abrazo. Bona vesprada.
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Brother, we see it everywhere—musicians who feel they need to use explicit content and references to sex and drugs to sell records, and movie directors who rely on profanity, violence, and sex to attract audiences. It’s disheartening that they think this is what people want.
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True. There’s no need for that to make a good song or a good picture. Those people are not true artists they are pamphleteers for evil.
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Exactly
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Por nada Francisco. Para mí, seguirte es entrar a una nueva dimensión de la pintura y así, adquiero más conocimientos. Un abrazo amigo.
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Gracias Manuel, feliz viernes.
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There is a difference between being an artist and then just be a sick Perv. If you are showing nudity in a form of art and there is a beautiful story behind it, then that is definitely allowed, but if you are doing with what you yourself considers art and you know deep down that it is sick , disgusting and disturbing, then you just answered your own question. Thank you for sharing this. This can be a long series on the explanation of good and wrong art, good and evil art and good and disturbing art. I guess it all comes down to what one truly considers art. Some use the word just to display evil and wrong things. We need to be careful with what we allow and accept .
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Very good points indeed. Vulgarity, perversions, sick behaviour is not art and should not be part of the discussion of censorship of art. Part of the things an artist needs, besides training, ideas, ability and knowledge is good taste. Thank you so much Willie for bringing up a most important point.
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👍👍 People have a tendency of using titles to display their ways and behaviors and it just causes more problems than doing good. Art should uplift and inspire, not degrade or shock for shock’s sake.
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Unfortunately there are many «artists» whose works are exclusively for shock value. Their work is worthless and meaningless and if they want to call it art, I will call it degenerate art, bad art and art that no one needs. I tell you, without good taste an artist is ruled by the most basest, unclean thoughts geared at offending, for the sake of offending and towards making a name for themselves using anything at at any cost. A name that, of course, will be soon erased from everyone’s memories.
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But here’s the problem. One man’s «art» is another man’s perversion, and others might see all shades of grey in between. Who gets to decide what is real art? (And who gets to decide who gets to decide?🤨) I don’t know about the rest of the world, but as a follower of Jesus Christ, my goal is not to see how close I can get to the edge without stepping out of bounds, but getting as close to the center of His perfect will as I can.
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Amen. I believe and also strive for that.
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This topic extends beyond art F and one in which I have strong views. These days, everybody’s views are controversial, but it’s my belief that in a civilized society we need to be mindful of other people’s views as well as our own, which is not the same thing as not being allowed the freedom to express our own beliefs.
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Very good point Malc and I quite agree with it. We should all be ruled by our good manners and good taste, but unfortunately there are those who are not. However, should people be censored simply because they are rude and boorish? I believe the only reason to censor is to prevent illegalities and deep offensive statements that would injure the people. But it is a good topic for discussion. No?
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Absolutely. I once said something similar to what I’ve just said to a Facebook friend who immediately unfollowed me. Now where’s the logic in that? Freedom of speech was just the freedom to say what he believed in – and it’s getting worse my friend.
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You are right, some people get offended and cut you off immediately when they disagree or do not like your opinions. I have a tendency to speak my mind but around some of my friends I must constantly bite my tongue because they are so bloody righteous and pompous! The only reason I would ever censure a comment is if it is offensive. But you are right, intolerance is getting worse.
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We’re on the same wavelength Francesc. The only difference being is that I’m more subtle in the way I voice my opinion, but that’s the polite British way of doing things – but that may have to change.
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It may have to, naturally, I mean look at us, Mediterranean Spaniards who used to be so quiet and so polite, now we are loud-mouthed and pushy… 😁 However, some of your fellow countrymen when they come to Spain they are not so subtle or polite… ✌😶✌
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I can’t disagree with that. They’re like kids in a sweet shop when they see the sunshine and lots of beer. I know how it feels 😀
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👍
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🌸👏👏💐
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Teşekkürler! İyi akşamlar
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Rica ederim iyi akşamlar 🙏🌸
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The conversation between you and Malc was interesting. I had lunch with a friend who said that she could not see any foreign leader talking to Kamala Harris. I did not ask her about all of the European leaders who were caught making fun of Donald Trump. Somethings are better left unresponded to if the friendship is otherwise rewarding. (We have been friends for decades and each drove over two hours to meet in the middle for lunch.) I agree with you outlines on art censorship–nudes are not inherently demeaning, but deliberate brutality and degradation can be. ( I do make an exception for Holocaust art where the artists were capturing what they saw and/or had been exposed to or experienced). Maybe why something was portrayed is important as what. That can lead down another sideline of what ifs and buts.
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Yes, a good friend is more important than making a political point, and I too choose to not talk about politics with friends whose views are opposed to mine. Just like I have agreements with friends de that when we are together we do not pull out our mobiles unless it is something urgent. And I can see European leaders meeting with Kamala Harris, of course. In Europe there are many women presidents, I cannot see them sitting with the other guy! And reference nudes, there seems to be less censorship for movies than for other forms of art… thanks Pat and happy Friday to you!
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Good response. Thanks, Francisco.
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Always my pleasure Pat. Good night.
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Yes, indeed. We have let society become a fool’s insanity. From suits over hot coffee (who would think?) to banning classic books from school libraries – society today is censor-stupid. Given the obvious limitations you explain, censorship should be censored.
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That is a good slogan, I like it! “Censorship Should be Censored”
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Hmmm so nudes are just not art whichever angle I look at it. 😶 But artistic nudes, of course should not be sensored. But then that will be double standards.
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Good point Cassa Bassa. Thank you 🙏🏻
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Well said👍. People always have a choice not to look, or take part, they have a choice to look away. As long as no-one, or animal, living being ( I especially include insects in this, don’t kill spiders, they are ace✌️), is being hurt, or violated, is there harm? Unfortunately we have a pandemic of narcissism in a society where most probably don’t even know the tale of Narcissus! They are trying to sanitize everything, including comedy…apparently we cannot just laugh anymore🤔. A great thing that can take some of the sting out of life. This maybe is all coming from those old traits….envy, fear, and greed. Kind regards…Jay😊
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I quite agree, Jay, they are trying to sanitize they society in their own way and, although I do not want to see vulgarity, I do not think they’ve the right to decide what we see, hear or do. If someone does not like something on the radio, in a book or on the tele, all they have to do is change the channel or get another book. All the best Jay. Greetings and Happy Friday!
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I agree, they have no right, and they have little control if we disengage with them. These people are the self appointed capos, power hungry narcissists who want to control everyone. Fortunately I believe they are the minority…they just tend to shout the loudest on social media etc. Thank you😊. Have a great day too my friend! Best…jay✌️
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I agree. You too, have a great day! All the best.
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Yes, I agree with what you wrote. An example is what happened to me recently. We redid our backyard, removing wooden decks and putting in cement. I wanted status like those that the Romans used. When looking for male statues, I found the “normal art” of nude males that I believe can be viewed anywhere in magazines, on the internet, etc. And then there were the male-enhanced statues that were inappropriate not only in my yard but anywhere. The problem I see is who decides what is appropriate. I have zero issues seeing women breastfeeding, while others view it as something erotic. It’s weird but true.
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That is the question, who decides? That is why good taste, decency and legality have to be taken into consideration. Thank you Craig, and all the best.
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My initial reaction was to say no, art should not be censored; however, after reading your explanation, I agree with you. Thank you for offering an unanticipated perspective.
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I think only for things illegal, the rest should be self regulated by self-censorship based on the common notion of good taste.
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De todas formas, lo legal e ilegal, va cambiando con el tiempo.
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Si, es verdad. Muchas gracias por la visita y por comentar. Saludos.
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I’ve gotten censored on social media for just using the word «screwed.» Some so-called art is just tasteless. But abuse of humans and animals is definitely not art and should be censored, just like with pornography.
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Absolutely! Abusing people and animals is not art, neither is pornography. However, films get away with almost pornographic scenes all the time… An artist must have good taste to create art and words should not be censored unless they are to make illegal comments or offense to others. Thank you so much Dawn.
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I would say some art which is outright illegal, should be censored. Nowadays, music has become increasingly vulgar. Now, that I don’t call art. It’s just a quick way to sell records. But art is a form of expression that shows your inner thoughts. So, really the definition of art is different from one individual to another. One can call it divine, the other can call it tasteless. But as I say, art’s purpose is to comfort the disturbed & disturb the comfortable.
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I think you have said something very interesting and I quite agree. Thank you!
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You’re welcome! Have a great day!
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You too.
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There are some artists, apparently, whose artwork is driven by self-harm; very shocking but also manages to send a message to the public. I wonder what should be done with these pieces of art? Your thoughts on censorship are thought-provoking and valid, it makes me ponder this even further.
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It is something to think about and it is a complex situation. There have been groups of artists whose performance art includes hurting themselves. I find it to be art for shock value and little more…
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You’re right, although some of the morals presented in their artwork are interesting to consider. Sometimes a little shock value is needed for certain social issues.
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The Viennese Accionists, for example. Created violent performances sometimes right in the middle of streets. I might like it or not but I would not censure it. Hurting animals or other humans, there I would… shock value to prove an important point May be valid but shock value for shock only, is not my kind of art.
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Well said, I agree wholeheartedly. Art should be from the heart and meaningful, not presented for the attention of the masses. I feel like it’s this latter point that often drives people to going to extremes for art.
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I think so too. Some «artists» are motivated by the allure of making money and the only way they can think of doing it is by shock value and scandalising people. I will not judge their intentions but they seem obvious enough that they are not motivated from the heart and from a sincere desire to communicate or to search. You have said it well and I truly appreciate such a dialogue. I think it is important to keep art as a form of pleasant and civilised discussion. All the best and greetings from Spain, well from a Spaniard.
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Thank you, I’m glad I could at least come here and experience true art through blogs like yours. All the best and greetings from Canada:)
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Any time, it is most refreshing to discuss these and many other topics about art. All the best.
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The only censorship should the people.
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Amen!
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